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Quality Control Center - Please Give Us Your Vote
On occasion a client will email LMW regarding the quality of submissions to their contest.
We feel it's very important to screen the designers at LMW to make sure we have a professional
design community that can create and deliver amazing logo designs to the clients.
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1. Do these designs contain Clipart, Stockart or seem to be Traced.
2. Have you noticed this designer being unprofessional or rude to clients or designers.
3. Are these professional designs created in true vector program such as Adobe Illustrator or Corel Draw.
Should this designer be allowed to stay? or Would this designer be better off designing elsewhere?
(If this is your design portfolio please do not take this personal. The final decision is held be the admin of LMW.)
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| 23 Votes The Designer Can Stay |
| 29 Votes The Designer Is Not Right for LMW |
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40 Comments |
The Final Decision |
| This Designers account is suspended |
This Designer can submit a portfolio in 4 months
to be reconsidered for LMW. |
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Raka |
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| Contest Won |
( 10 ) |
| 2nd Place |
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| 3rd Place |
( 1 ) |
| Entered |
( 1714 ) |
| Participated |
( 160 ) |
| Account: suspended |
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Quality Control Discussion |
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| Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 06:51 AM |
I agree with Tranzlova : << Mr DZain said: "Exactly I want LMW have much more talented designer, because business is must go on."
But exactly because of that he had to go. In order to keep this business going, designers must come up with original and unique designs, not copied/stolen art. Soon, clients would refrain from coming here because of the bad reputation this site will get from dishonest designers, which will destroy this business>>.
Mr. DZain took Raka's defense of patriotic spirit. Mr. Zain not think about the reputation of this site.
Too bad! |
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| Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 03:50 AM |
I totally agree with 20HunStudio and forumadmin. It's not an isolated event that should raise doubt and ask for another chance. Losing 6 proven disputes only means he's taking advantage of his skills and reputation. Adding the knowledge of his "bribing behavior" and creating extra accounts for reasons explained by Joe only adds to fact that he is not right for this.
Mr DZain said: "Exactly I want LMW have much more talented designer, because business is must go on."
But exactly because of that he had to go. In order to keep this business going, designers must come up with original and unique designs, not copied/stolen art. Soon, clients would refrain from coming here because of the bad reputation this site will get from dishonest designers, which will destroy this business. |
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| Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 03:33 AM |
| I voted HE CAN STAY, i shall guess him repair it |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 10:38 PM |
Right decision at right time
thanks Joe |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 06:44 PM |
| In light of all this you made the right choice Joe. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 03:57 PM |
| This guy was a total con artist, particularly in light of the PMs and multiple accounts discovered. Thanks, Joe. You absolutely did the right thing. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 02:26 PM |
| Best decision. We have a lot of talent here and I'm pretty sure just the best will survive the process... Hope too that new people understand and learn from every step and every lesson here, there is work for everyone, but the prize at end is for the best. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 01:24 PM |
| I have caught 2 different logo disputes and see alot of stuff in his profile is re-traced or pure stock vector art. Obviously he knows how to use illustrator but getting banned 4 times, and continuing to rip off other people's work and get ALOT of money for it... Goodbye. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 12:43 PM |
While monitoring PM's we noticed these designers sending messages asking for votes and support.
They were all signed "Thanks Raka" at the end of the message.
http://www.logomyway.com/designerDetailProfile.php?userId=7328
http://www.logomyway.com/designerDetailProfile.php?userId=1555
http://www.logomyway.com/designerDetailProfile.php?userId=5549
One account was also suspended for clipart a few months ago "Adiguna".
With this new discovery it's very clear that "Raka" is not a fit for LMW. All 3 accounts will be banned.
Thanks for your votes and feedback. Regardless of the votes "Raka" would have been banned. It's not fair to the other designers and the clients to have to deal with this behavior regardless of talent and how long a desigenr has been on LMW. We take each case and deal with it based on several things. In "Rakas" case he lost too many disputes and has 4 accounts (All same IP) on LMW which is another violation. He has also created 2 more accounts to add some votes. When designers work like this it's just a matter of time before everything comes tumbling down.
Thanks again for your votes and feedback.
Joe |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 10:58 AM |
Please give him a chance.
But 1 more logo dispute in 3 months....... I'm sorry to say
i can't help.
Voted "CAN STAY"
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 10:37 AM |
| I've seen this designer copy other designers way too many times (I experienced this myself a while back, but didn't initiate a logo dispute). I've also seen this designer post bribes to the contest holder to do free business cards, etc. in exchange for selecting his logo. Talent or not, this speaks to a "win at any cost" mentality. That has no place on here and goes against everything this site is supposed to be about...creativity, originality and integrity. I'm not sure what the pity party is about, nor do I understand why other designers feel he deserves one more chance. This isn't about a single, isolated incident. This is about an ongoing pattern of behavior to circumvent the rules. Yes, it's sad to lose a talented designer (I do believe the talent is there), but it's even sadder when legitimate designers who work very hard and play by the rules lose out to someone who doesn't. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 10:32 AM |
I agree with this ....
FUTURISTIC LOGO SAYS : " We all must fully understand that LMW needs more and more talented designers everyday with different types of design styles, because the number of contests we had each day are increased. I must admit that myself also unable to participate in each contest caused by the loaded of my in-house works. So, people like you all must handle the reponsibilities. Don't fight each other. Keep up the great work and show the world your great talents ".
Please Stop fight each other in LMW, and keep in peace mind.
We are designers, not a judge. So don't you have any reason to judge other designer.
We only have to vote he can stay or not in LMW. Exactly I want LMW have much more talented designer, because business is must go on. There is more new contest always every day.
I wish you all the best.
Good luck Raka, I support you 100%. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 10:14 AM |
| I voted HE CAN STAY, and wish in future he can learn something from this case :-) |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 09:51 AM |
This is definitely a hard One. I like Raka's work but the problem here is that when you are in a site long enough to be one of the top designers you get a lot more responsibilities and one of those is to show the path to the newbies. I had a problem with Raka long ago when I clearly see his design was really close to my own concept, I was glad that I inspired him but since there are rules here, I kindly ask him to remove his entry (no dispute made) and he did, nice gesture. But in this case there is a clear use of clip/stock art and it is indeed a violation of the rules, but I vote to give him a slap in the hand and hope for this never happen again, as said, cause he is been long time here.
Logomotion,RedLace, futuristic all are right but as said it is a tough one and I will be glad with the democratic decision, nonetheless, I voted HE CAN STAY. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 07:24 AM |
Difficult decision here. I'll have to think about it. This is clearly a talented designer, but copying other work multiple times (at least 6!?) is really a LOT. Okay, some disputes on LMW occur when a designer coincidentally made something similar to something that already exists, which is logical with billions of designs worldwide. But I've seen some of Raka's proven disputes and they are clearly pure copies.
If I vote Yes, it will definitely not be to lose a competitor on this site. I encourage more talent on this site as it gives me inspiration and a challenge, but talented designers abusing their skills should not be tolerated. Losing competitions to another designer with a better logo is fine as long as they are truly better, but seeing someone win because they copy stuff ... Raka, how would you feel if someone won a cycling contest only by using doping?
Mr DZain told everyone to "vote with our hearts", but I say Raka should have designed with his heart. This would have prevented him from doing this for the sake of the customers. They are not supposed to be the victims of copyright issues just so he could increase his contest wins and get some extra money. So telling us to vote with our hearts seems to me that he's only trying to make us feel guilty if we vote Yes, even though this would never have happened if he designed with his heart in the first place.
I conclude that the main focus on LMW should remain that clients can find professional logos here, not copied work so that the designer could get some more money and rep.
If I decide not to vote Raka out, it will be with hope that he will no longer copy anything. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 05:13 AM |
Raka, I am not another winning designer stealing vectors and prize money...
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 05:12 AM |
I've tried to show that I really wanted to avoid the forbidden things in LMW, so I'm more hesitant, as good as any I reasoned would be unable to fight the system that the specified ...
Joe .. you already know what you should do ... thank you all .. opportunity was only once .. whoever you are .. continue to work on here ..
regards
Raka |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 05:04 AM |
| and tralumi is more fun and good comments rather than participate in making the logo .. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 05:00 AM |
FuturisticLOGO says :
" Sometimes logo disputes decision wasn't too accurate if you had many "enemies" in this site. To add, if you keep on winning the contests:-(
Stop the cronyism, don't be like one of the contest site out there. They only want their senior group conquering the contest. The stupid remains.
i love ur write FuturisticLOGO
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 05:00 AM |
| and tralumi is more fun and good comments rather than participate in making the logo .. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:59 AM |
FuturisticLOGO says :
" Sometimes logo disputes decision wasn't too accurate if you had many "enemies" in this site. To add, if you keep on winning the contests:-(
Stop the cronyism, don't be like one of the contest site out there. They only want their senior group conquering the contest. The stupid remains.
i love ur write FuturisticLOGO
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:58 AM |
| and tralumi is more fun and good comments rather than participate in making the logo .. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:48 AM |
There's no talent Raka is discussed. Here we discuss violations of rules to be respected by all designers, without exception. Raka know the rules and knowingly violates. If it creates a precedent, then that regulation should be abolished ...
Raca has done a wrong thing for the customer, but also for designers. I noticed that Raka was often indignant towards designers who stole ...
Sorry Raka ... |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:41 AM |
Let's Rock n Roll! Vote Raka for President! :-)
No matter how much outstanding accomplishments a President has, once he violated the law in the eyes of his people, he steps down, but sometimes the President is given a chance when he realized he actually did something wrong. :-)
Oh Raka! you're cool BUT a piece of advice, humble yourself down, make your pledge to the community, that might help!
Rakaaaa ---- Foooorrrr ---- Presiiiideeeent!!! :-) |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:17 AM |
reply >>>
FuturisticLOGO says :
" Sometimes logo disputes decision wasn't too accurate if you had many "enemies" in this site. To add, if you keep on winning the contests:-(
Stop the cronyism, don't be like one of the contest site out there. They only want their senior group conquering the contest. The stupid remains. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:12 AM |
reply >>>
FuturisticLOGO says :
" Sometimes logo disputes decision wasn't too accurate if you had many "enemies" in this site. To add, if you keep on winning the contests:-(
Stop the cronyism, don't be like one of the contest site out there. They only want their senior group conquering the contest. The stupid remains. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:12 AM |
We all must fully understand that LMW needs more and more talented designers everyday with different types of design styles, because the number of contests we had each day are increased.
I must admit that myself also unable to participate in each contest caused by the loaded of my in-house works. So, people like you all must handle the reponsibilities. Don't fight each other. Keep up the great work and show the world your great talents.
I wish you all the best. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:12 AM |
reply >>>
FuturisticLOGO says :
" Sometimes logo disputes decision wasn't too accurate if you had many "enemies" in this site. To add, if you keep on winning the contests:-(
Stop the cronyism, don't be like one of the contest site out there. They only want their senior group conquering the contest. The stupid remains. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 04:05 AM |
| thanks futuristiclogo .. I'm sure many do not like with me because I was also a competitor for them .. indeed a sad reality |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 03:56 AM |
Please give him another chance. Sometimes logo disputes decision wasn't too accurate if you had many "enemies" in this site. To add, if you keep on winning the contests:-(
Stop the cronyism, don't be like one of the contest site out there. They only want their senior group conquering the contest. The stupid remains. |
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| Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 02:22 AM |
| wow .. wow! very unfortunate, if the loss of a talented designer ... |
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 11:37 PM |
Here are a few
http://www.logomyway.com/case.php?cId=1000&conId=1259
http://www.logomyway.com/case.php?cId=947&conId=1302
http://www.logomyway.com/case.php?cId=929&conId=1254
http://www.logomyway.com/case.php?cId=926&conId=1241
http://www.logomyway.com/case.php?cId=928&conId=1241
http://www.logomyway.com/case.php?cId=693&conId=1027 |
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 11:10 PM |
| I am going to have to sleep on this. It does make me wonder if there is much clipart in his portfolio that just didn't get detected. It is an outstanding portfolio though. |
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:50 PM |
After seeing three different vectors/clip art he used in entries for the Animals First contest, this is not okay. He knows the rules, using clipart being the biggest of them all and he is clearly guilty of that (despite his portfolio quality, that doesn't give you a free pass). Sorry to see this happen to a clearly talented designer.
If these six dispute loses were all copying other designers, I wouldn't vote him out because that can sometimes be subjective. But using clipart, you know exactly what you were doing and that it is not allowed at LMW, 6 times is too many.
I vote he is banned - OR - at minimum suspended for three months and when he returns if he loses one more dispute for clipart violation in the next 6 months he is banned.
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:50 PM |
Please see this with your deep heart.
I think losing of "logodispute" can not make the designer like plagiarism.
See detail all of his designs. He has more talent. He could make any unique designs.
I think we must be honest with our heart and then vote by heart. |
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:44 PM |
| make decisions in a professional, I understand that there are amongst you there are not happy with me |
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:40 PM |
| I would like to see the disputes he lost, can we have links? This may sway my decision one way or another when voting. |
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:25 PM |
Aw..that hurts but he can't follow simple rule. "No Clipart and Copycats" BUT he's been with LMW for a while, how about an ultimatum? LAST chance if he blew it, then that's the end of his LMW career? :-)
ALSO, this can be a good lesson to many.
Just my dollar. :-) |
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:15 PM |
please see my portfolio again, do not see how much I got logodispute, original work of my logo is more dominant.
Thanks
Raka |
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| Monday, March 29, 2010, 09:53 PM |
I banned "Raka" for having lost 6 disputes over a 6 month period, some for clipart and some for copying other designers. After several emails with "Raka" I agreed to let the community decide.
It's in your hands now. Your vote stands!
Thanks
Joe |
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